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Will Barron Interviews Bill Caskey – The Salesman Podcast

Recently, I was invited to be on with Will Barron, (The Salesman podcast) out of UK. I’ve had Will on my podcast before and find him to be a straight shooter – and a seeker of the truth about how to achieve in this world.

We addressed:

  • The idea of your core mission as a sales pro
  • Some ideas on how you can use content marketing to enhance your position
  • Ideas on the ‘new paradigm of selling.’

Here is the interview in its entirety:

If you want to listen on his iTunes stream, here it is.

Sales Professional?
I’ve had a few requests since the interview – from people wondering how to get access to more of this thinking. We are taking applications throughout the year into The 2X Group, a mastermind/learning group for B2B sellers, which you can find out more about here. http://www.the2xgroup.com

Sales Leader?
I also had some inquiries from Sales Leaders/Managers/VPs for how to implement this thinking inside your company. If that speaks to you, then go here for more information on how to do that. www.worldclasssalesleader.com

Where Is the Line?

Where is the line in your life? The line of accomplishment, of well-being, and fulfillment. Isn’t time for you to reach your true pontential?

On this episode, Bill goes deep and helps you think through where your line is and how you can step up to that line.

By the way, if you’re a sales leader or a CEO and oversee a sales team that’s not quite performing up to par, go to billcaskey.com/wth to download my free checklist on how to get them back in shape!

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Creating the Ideal Sales Process

On this episode, I’ll share with you what I believe is the ideal process. One that puts you in control, and not needy or begging for the deal.

This is a big dream, but if you dream just as big, this will radically change your business.

By the way, if you’re a sales leader or a CEO and oversee a sales team that’s not quite performing up to par, go to billcaskey.com/wth to download my free checklist on how to get them back in shape!

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Is Your Obsession With Your Numbers Really Helping You?

In this week’s episode I deal with what seems to be an obsession with our numbers in corporate America. I’m wondering how healthy it is or if it’s really helpful for you.

I’m also wondering if there’s another way to look at our achievements, from another perspective, that would make it even easier for us to accomplish our goals.

Actually, I think there is. I give you four things to think about in this episode.

By the way, if you’re a sales leader or manager looking to grow you skills and your business, join me this Friday, May 1 at 12PM EST for a LIVE STREAM. I’ll be discussing 7 important Leadership Strategies that will launch you into World Class status. Click here to save your spot now!

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How Do I Get Out Of This?

Continuing our weekly series on the business disruption caused by Corona. On this episode, I’ll give you the advice that I’ve been giving my coaching clients, how to mentally get out of this.
We need to start preparing ourselves now for when we re-launch our business and how we can get back into growth mode. I’ll give you some ways to think about you plan.

By the way, if you’re a sales leader or a CEO and oversee a sales team that’s not quite performing up to par, go to billcaskey.com/wth to download my free checklist on how to get them back in shape!

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Getting Your Mind Right for the Next 90 Days

This continues our twice a week series on the business disruption caused by the coronavirus.

In this episode Bill goes through five ideas for you to consider as you plan your next 30, 60 or 90 days. He also addresses the illusion of control or the illusion of certainty which he gives you a solution for.

By the way, if you’re a sales leader or a CEO and oversee a sales team that’s not quite performing up to par, go to billcaskey.com/wth to download my free checklist on how to get them back in shape!

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How to Get Prospects to Sell You


No matter what anyone says, I don’t believe salespeople go into business so they can act desperate.

It’s true, if you think about it – most people in sales are there to do the right thing. Earn a living, provide for their family, secure their future. It’s not like they wake up thinking, “How will I intimidate someone into buying from me today?”

Now, I get it. We want to start selling, lickety-split. It’d be nice to start closing sales on Day One. Especially if you’re not out to hurt anyone. It’s time that can mess with our heads. The clock is ticking, and good time management is usually part of winning in sales. Think end of the month deadlines, life cycle of leads, and so forth.

I hate to be the one to tell you, but sales operates like marketing and follow-up. Many people need to hear things a good eight to twelve times before magic happens. If you let anxiety or impatience get the better of you, good intentions won’t matter. You need to send a sincere, patient message to your audience. Over and over.

Being in a hurry to sell sabotages your approach. Prospects want a calm, confident professional. Instead, they get a desperate, pushy salesperson. This is because the majority of communication is nonverbal. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you can adjust to send the right signals.


Heart for Sale

Our intentions and motives come from deep within. They’re based on what we believe. That’s common sense, right?

But as we know our intentions affect our actions. You’d think most people would connect them together. But common sense … isn’t all that common.

What’s interesting is salespeople notice this easily when they’re buying from another professional. But as soon as they get back in the seller’s chair… they forget all about it.

What difference would it make if you showed up differently? How would it look? You’d walk into a meeting where the only outcome that matters is serving the other person. Educating them. Solving their problems. Taking their side, instead of trying to push through their defenses.

It would send out vibes that the prospect could sense. They’d know just from the tone of your voice and the gleam in your eye. This changes everything.

Intention - Bill Caskey


The Lows and the Highs

There are people who only care about meeting a quota so they can earn commission. Do you think prospects can smell that? Of course. These are what I call “low-intent salespeople.”

They sell only for themselves. They don’t really care about the prospect. It’s a surprise if they even ask questions about the problem. They’re usually in a rush to get signatures.

High-intent salespeople, meanwhile, are in it for everyone. Of course, they want to succeed, but not at the expense of serving the customer.

High-intent salespeople also maintain healthy concern for their company. They regard sales calls as “interviews” to see if accepting the client solves problems for their firm.

High-intent salespeople also maintain healthy concern for their company. They regard sales calls as “interviews” to see if accepting the client solves problems for their firm. Share on X

The Best Intent = The Best Result

In most sales training, “results” usually means “more money for us.” Let’s flip the switch a little on this, to include process, focus and role reversal.


1. Process

The first thing high-intent selling changes is the overall experience of buying. It begins with marketing. On social media, blogs or anywhere else, are you generous with what you know? Can prospects take a few steps in the right direction, before you need money?

What about your funnel? Do you switch from soft marketing to a hard sell, or do you make time to give comfort to your prospect? Your first call should include a second dose of free knowledge they can use. The conversation should allow them to “brush up against you” and get a feel for you as someone they trust.

To close with high-intent, you need to be even more careful. Every call can have a blind corner or “misread signal” for the seller. How do you handle objections? Can you play with resistance, without being offensive? Can you reflect back to the prospect gently, applying pressure when it’s called for?

The salesperson who masters these subtleties of persuasion is a true champion. These are the ones clients later write to say, “Thank you for giving me the push I needed.”

 

2. Focus

If you’ve never watched a skilled journalist, you might want to pay attention to how they work. Celebrities give interviews to Barbara Walters, Howard Stern and Oprah Winfrey because they know they’ll be led into deep conversations – with millions of people watching.

Unlike salespeople, journalists don’t want money from guests. They want something far more important to the prospect … their story! Their background, pains, sorrows, hopes and aspirations. Don’t you think your prospects have stories? What if you’re competing for a piece of business their current vendor is neglecting? In your sales strategy, learn to think like a journalist.

A Word About Detachment

I recommend detachment as part of high-intent selling. But some people hear that and think it means, “Be passive.” Nope. Not at all.

The best definition for detachment is never being more interested in making the sale than the customer is in solving their problems. You are mindful of their pain, but you insist on remaining helpful rather than coercive.

It’s hard to frighten a salesperson who displays calmness, whether or not they actually make a sale. With high-intent selling, you remove pride from the equation and become preoccupied with serving the needs of the person in front of you..

Benevolent detachment sends a message to people: You are totally unafraid of them saying “No.” And that is exceedingly rare among salespeople.

 

3. Role Reversal

High-intent sellers usually end up being “sold” by their prospects. They radiate confidence and plenty of curiosity. They could be mistaken for “The Most Interesting Man (or Woman) in the World.” People insist on doing business, just because they find you interesting.

Some global companies “brand” with their audiences well. High-intent selling is a form of branding, graphic design and flashy logos or not. What people get from it is a feeling. If your prospects feel the difference, they need less persuading than normal.

Take it from me, you want to know what this feels like. The kind of sales conversations you’ll have will make it all worthwhile.

I don’t know if you’re intrigued with this. If you are, I invite you to my website to learn more about The 2X Group. It’s a mastermind we’ve created for sales professionals to help them do exactly what I’ve laid out in this article.

Click here to learn more about The 2X Group. 

 

 

Stress Free Prospecting

The #1 issue with sales teams is without a doubt Prospecting.

“How do I generate the right leads in the right way to scale my business?”

It can be such a stressful part of the sales process, but it doesn’t have to be that way. On this episode, I’ll give you 5 perspectives you must change to make the prospecting experiences 100% Stress Free. 

What the hell is going on with your sales team? Not sure? Find out by downloading my BRAND NEW leadership guide. Just go to https://billcaskey.com/wth to get your free copy now!

 

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12 Sales Codes of Conduct

Are you following these Codes of Conduct in your business? 

As part of our work with my sales mastermind, The 2X Group, we follow and teach 12 Principles that you must follow to obtain 2X Growth. On this week’s episode, I’ll give you all 12 principles and some ways you can start using them in your world.

No one on this planet has lived your life, when you say you have nothing to say, you are living a lie! Share on X

What the hell is going on with your sales team? Not sure? Find out by downloading my BRAND NEW leadership guide. Just go to https://billcaskey.com/wth to get your free copy now!

 

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