Selling, Marketing and Business Philosophy with Jason Leister – Part 1

Occasionally someone comes along who catches your eye as a person who can provide expertise to the business world and on how to properly think about client acquisition. Jason Leister is one such character.

I subscribed to Jason’s newsletter several years ago and have had several conversations with him over the years. Recently, I had the pleasure of having him on the podcast which which we divided up into a two part series.

Jason shares his expertise on selling, marketing and how to develop a strong business philosophy.

I think you’ll enjoy Jason’s perspective on client acquisition. You can find out more about him at incomparableexpert.org and be sure to subscribe to his newsletter!

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Episode #539: Understanding the Process When Leads Get Generated

On this episode of The Advanced Selling Podcast, veteran sales trainers Bill Caskey and Bryan Neale address a listener question from the mailbag from someone who wanted to know whether they should outsource their lead generation.

The guys talk about the three different types of lead generation, sales person directed, internally focused, or outside agency directed.

They also give some insight on how to look at these three areas of focus, depending upon where you are in your business.

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If you’re interested in bringing one or both of the guys in for a sales retreat or sales meeting, send us an email at [email protected], and if you’re a new listener, we’d love to hear about you. Send us an email telling us how you found the podcast and what you’d like to hear as you go down the journey with us to sales excellence!

Leadership Success with George Bradt

Recently Bill received an email newsletter from a Leadership and Onboarding Expert, George Bradt. The email really spoke to him so he decided to call George and get him on the podcast.

On this episode of The Bill Caskey Podcast, Bill sits down with George Bradt and they discuss an array of topics from leadership to fulfillment in life. George had some really good thoughts on the success of a leader and sales. You won’t want to miss this one!

To learn more about George and get on his email newsletter, go to https://www.primegenesis.com.

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Should You Have a Personal Brand – And Where Do You Begin?

Recently I was interviewed by Sarah Lynn Wallace founder of @thisisherexchange. She is an up-and-coming social media star who seeks out experts on sales, marketing and social. She and I did about a 30-minute discussion that ran the gamut from ‘should I have a personal brand?’ to ‘how should I think about it?’ and we discussed ‘how do I begin to build it?’

We put some clips of the interview up on the platforms, but here is the entire interview. It’s about 30 minutes, so grab a beverage and enjoy!

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Episode #531: How To Handle Pressure When You Are A High Achiever

In this episode of The Advanced Selling Podcast, Bill Caskey and Bryan Neale continue the CoVideo Mailbag series and take a listener call from Cara who is a top performer at a Fortune 1000 company.

Cara just got her numbers for the next 12 months and she is feeling a bit of performance anxiety. Bill and Bryan break down the real issue and provide a handful of things to think about if you are in similar kind of circumstance.

If you’re interested in having Bill or Bryan or both come to your upcoming sales meeting, send us an email. In the subject line, put “Come see us” to [email protected].

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Your Erroneous Beliefs

On this episode of The 2X Podcast, Bill outlines the top 10 erroneous beliefs that could hold you back from 2X-ing your business.

There is a freebie that Bill created at https://caskeytraining.com/monthlybundle/mainwp/88download – Print it and follow along!

Have you heard of the saying, “We get in our own way?” That’s exactly what these beliefs do. Be sure to assess yourself and your own beliefs that might be in your way.

Send Bill a voice memo with a question to [email protected] to have him answer it in an upcoming episode.

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How Jason Doubled His Income

“We can easily forgive a child when they’re afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.” -Plato Share on X

I started my sales career in living in constant fear.

Why would anyone buy something from me ?

How was I to communicate properly to get people to buy?

How was I to create personal wealth in a profession I knew little about?

What if I failed? Then what?

Relate?

I find most sales professionals do.

The problem is never “what” we sell. Or, “who our market is.” Or, “What the price is.”

It’s deeper than that.

And in this article, I will share with you how one of my clients doubled his income in a matter of 120 days.

I share this not to exert my will on you. Whether you follow this process is your call, not mine.

I share it because I find that when a framework appears, it’s a helluva lot easier to make changes and get results.

I’ve read blogs like this before where the author never gives up the gold. That will NOT happen here. My aim is to help you see what is possible in your world, even if you might not.

I’ve been training sales teams for over 30 years…7500 training session…over 2000 coaching sessions…900 podcasts…and a book, Same Game New Rules, one that many companies use as their text book for new and counter-intuitive training.

And one thing I always find…we all want more.

It’s just the way we humans are built. If we are fully human, we express it by wanting to realize our potential on this planet.

But while we all want more…often, it feels out of our reach.

We find ourselves saying, “Well yes, Bill can do that, but I can’t.” Or, “Well, easy for Jason…he has a (built in advantage) but I don’t have that.”

Yes you do. And we’ll get to that.

Today, I will share with you the story of Jason and how he used our sales philosophy and methodology to significantly grow his business quickly.

He came to me struggling in his sales territory. No, he wasn’t about to get fired – but he was the classic underachiever. On the surface he looked like he could be a killer. But the results were never there. And he was becoming frustrated.

Sales philosophy jason case studyJason was 35 years old with a new wife and a new house. He’d been in his current position for 5 years. He was a pretty good sales person -always in the middle of the pack. But…he knew he could do better.

His manager was always telling him, “Hey Jason, you can crush this thing. You have tons of opportunity in your territory. What’s going on?”

Ever have someone tell you that?

Or have you ever told yourself that? (That might be more painful).

Those conversations shamed him – they certainly didn’t inspire him. He needed a plan and a way of thinking – a philosophy – which he wasn’t getting. He was not a real ambitious bloak – not a trained killer. He’d always been average – earning about $80,000/year. BUT, he knew there was more.

One thing you should know about Jason: A born sales person he was not. Not sure anyone is – but there is a worldview that there IS such a thing.

There is NOT.

And, worse, he started to question himself if sales was even the right profession. Not a good place to be.

As I said at the top, I questioned myself almost every day when I began in sales.

“Is this what I really want to do?”

“Will this get me to my goals?”

“Am I cut out for this?”

Just like me, Jason began to doubt himself and his skills. He lost confidence in his ability and his natural talent.

We call this the “doubt spiral.” And it’s ugly.

“Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt.” Share on X

As a coach, if I can’t get the “doubt” turned around, there is almost no hope for high achievement. It will continue to be the same, day after day, year after year.

I want to share how we turned it around. I say “we” because it was both of us.

RESULTS

So in the 6 months I worked with him, here were his results:

  • Tripled his average monthly appointment count.
  • Went from a closing rate of 10% to 65%.
  • Monthly income went up 3x.
  • And the biggest result was his confidence level – hard to measure, but hard to be without.

Finding Help To Tame The Demons

The Process: Sales Philosophy, Methodology, & Process.

As he got down on himself, a friend suggested he find someone to help him…a coach…a peer group…somewhere to acquire the right skills and the right attitudes.

He began to research online. He found a mastermind / learning group I run and set up an appointment with me where he shared his plight.

He was very specific and very open, the first step to getting help and creating change.
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Three Tips That Will Improve Your Mindset Right Now

I’ve heard many authors say that once they write a book, they never look at it again. That is definitely not me. I wrote Same Game New Rules over 12 years ago, but I still refer to it when I want to create content for a blog or to offer people useful advice.

I often find myself referring back to Chapter 20 in Same Games New Rules. This chapter is one of my favorites because I discuss the laws of money. It is vital that you understand the laws of money if you want to improve your work ethic and your mindset.

Law #1: The less you care about money, the more you’ll make.

When you become needy of money or business, you push away the very people who can help you. If you approach your client with more interest in solving problems than getting money, and the client is someone you can and want to help, you’ll automatically attract more business and money to you than you ever thought possible.

Law # 2: Push your clients too hard and their money will leave with them.

Your goal should be to create an environment in which your client pulls you along. The optimum strategy is to have your prospect selling you on why he needs you. On your first call, simply lay out your intent with a non-threatening, servant-like attitude.

During this time, resist the temptation to close the deal. Even when you know you can help, continue to explore options with your client, allowing him to pull you along. Never get more excited than your prospect.

Law #3 If you trap your clients, they’ll run.

When you pursue a sale in the traditional way, you, in essence, stand over your client, trapping them so that it is nowhere for them to go but out the door. Your goal should always be to leave your client an escape hatch.

If you have found these tips useful, click the button below to check out the full version of Same Games New Rules.

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Interview With Steve Walker

Continuing with our May guest interview series, on this week’s 2X Podcast episode I had the chance to interview good friend of mine, Steve Walker. He’s the President of Walker Information and an icon in ‘customer experience’ research.

Steve shares the importance of your customer’s experience with your company and gives you insight and some tips on how you can begin to improve it.

Steve also has his own podcast you should try out, The CX Leader Podcast, available on iTunes. 

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